The Golden Saying of Epictetus XV

'If what philosophers say of the kinship of God and Man be true, what remains for men to do but as Socrates did:--never, when asked one's country, to answer, "I am an Athenian or a Corinthian," but "I am a citizen of the world."' -Epictetus

This passage is applicable to the church. And what about the church? Simply, church unity.

Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, -Colossians 1:24

Get it right people. I am reminded of J.C. Ryle's essay on the true church. He says that the true church is composed of anyone who has passed from death to life. Anyone who is saved; that it has nothing to so with denomination but more to do with how whether or not a group of people after being saved by Christ meet together to talk of the glory of God. Why is there divisions among us that make claims of one being more saved than the next. Shall we not make these judgments by the works of righteousness in their lives?

Although, I do like to contradict Epictetus a little bit. I am an American and I would not have it any other way.


J. Hedges said...

Some LDS people that I've met are the most morally upstanding people I've ever known, and have a very developed sense of the spiritual. They contemplate and gather to speak about the glory of God. Are they saved?

Evan Gunn said...

no. Never met a Mormon who didn't hold family values higher than God. They are not worthy of him.

J. Hedges said...

By what authority can you say that?

Evan Gunn said...

By my judgment, which I try to synchronize with God's judgment.

Also, the Mormons are all about works of righteousness. That does not fly with God.

Evan Gunn said...

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God -- not because of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

This is crucial Christianity. Sin all man has sinned personally against God, there is nothing he can do to save his soul. And don't you dare call repentance a work of righteousness. That would be nonsense.

My regards, sir.

Also, with recent developments in our military imagine me saluting you right now.

J. Hedges said...

A wise young man once said, "Shall we not make these judgments by the works of righteousness in their lives?"

Salute returned. Carry on.

Anyway, good post. Once again I've spammed your site with my own pretentious opinions but I hope you know that's just my way of showing appreciation for thoughtful content. Good job.

Evan Gunn said...

Thumbs up.